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2 April 2019, 01:49 AM | #1 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Comparison of 5711/1R-001 and 5980/1R-001 Only two people I know have a 5711 in rose gold, and both told me they passed on a 5980 and opted for a 5711 because it felt better on the wrist. I've never worn / tried on any other model of Nautilus except a 5712 but I am curious to get input from additional sources with their thoughts around the two. __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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2 April 2019, 03:44 AM | #2 |
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Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,345 | 5980R is a heavy timepiece compare to 5711R..... I prefer 5711R for the comfort wear....... I see you wearing a Yellow Gold Yacht Master II in your avatar picture.... With that being said, you should have no issue wearing the 5980R..... Go for the heavy hitter..... |
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2 April 2019, 06:30 AM | #3 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Yeah, I suppose it could be mostly related to weight for a lot of people for comfort. __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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2 April 2019, 06:34 AM | #4 |
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Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220 | I'm one of those, my first love was actually the 5980R so a kind of halfway between the two, but as I had a RG ROO and like my APs built and muscular, and Rolexes too like yours, I wanted my Patek to be smooth and silky and the 5711R does that magnificently. |
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2 April 2019, 06:52 AM | #5 |
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Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471 | speaking of which, i'm still looking for an 11R! |
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2 April 2019, 07:30 AM | #6 |
Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345 | 5980/1R is heavy watch compared to the 5711/1R. If you are used to the YG Yacht-Master II you will have no problem with it. It is very likely 5980/1R will be discontinued next year so I would try to obtain it before the 5711/1R |
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2 April 2019, 09:15 AM | #7 |
Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772 | I agree. Too heavy ... like i said it makes me look like a asian mob boss’ son. |
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3 April 2019, 12:59 AM | #8 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Quote: Originally Posted by Sam Philip 5980/1R is heavy watch compared to the 5711/1R. If you are used to the YG Yacht-Master II you will have no problem with it. It is very likely 5980/1R will be discontinued next year so I would try to obtain it before the 5711/1R Interesting, why do you think that? __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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3 April 2019, 01:46 AM | #9 |
Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345 | Quote: Originally Posted by believelandcle Interesting, why do you think that? 5980R has been on the catalogue since 2010 and 5980/1R and 5980/1AR have been on the catalogue since 2013. 5990A has been on the catalogue since 2014 and due a different dial/metal variation and if they decide to produce a 5990R it is highly likely they will stop producing the 5980 series. |
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3 April 2019, 06:30 AM | #10 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,256 | Quote: Originally Posted by Fat_ninja I agree. Too heavy ... like i said it makes me look like a asian mob boss son. good in your whereabouts, isn't it? nobody will touch you |
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3 April 2019, 06:34 AM | #11 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,256 | 5711R wears super comfy but 5980AR wears very well too. don't know (yet) about 5980/1R. my next incoming will be 5980R on leather, i am already curious about that one. some say too top-heavy. let us see. |
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3 April 2019, 09:13 AM | #12 |
Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772 | Quote: Originally Posted by pam66 good in your whereabouts, isn't it? nobody will touch you Lol i wish. |
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3 April 2019, 09:41 AM | #13 |
Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345 | Quote: Originally Posted by pam66 5711R wears super comfy but 5980AR wears very well too. don't know (yet) about 5980/1R. my next incoming will be 5980R on leather, i am already curious about that one. some say too top-heavy. let us see. 5980R is heavier than the 5712R. I prefer the 5980/1R compared to 5980R. |
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3 April 2019, 10:26 AM | #14 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: USA Posts: 48 | 5711R wears better on my pocket book |
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3 April 2019, 11:51 AM | #15 |
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Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: All please! Posts: 1,042 | Quote: Originally Posted by believelandcle Only two people I know have a 5711 in rose gold, and both told me they passed on a 5980 and opted for a 5711 because it felt better on the wrist. I've never worn / tried on any other model of Nautilus except a 5712 but I am curious to get input from additional sources with their thoughts around the two. I have the 5711/1r and have clearly tried the 5980/1r on several occasions. the 5980 is amazing, and I would love to own one, but the 5711 won on thinness and dial pop. You can't lose here. __________________ Patek: 5711 and 5167 "Extra Sauce" Rolex:116520 White, WG Daytona Oysterflex, 1016 Gilt, 16750 Pepsi, 1803, Tudor Snowflake, 16613 Swiss Only Omega: 2998-4, Ck2998 |
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3 April 2019, 11:52 AM | #16 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Montana Posts: 3,223 | I'm on the list for a 5980/1R instead of a 5711/1R because I actually prefer the added weight. If they roll out a 5990/1R next year, that'd be epic. |
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3 April 2019, 02:23 PM | #17 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Quote: Originally Posted by GreenLantern I'm on the list for a 5980/1R instead of a 5711/1R because I actually prefer the added weight. If they roll out a 5990/1R next year, that'd be epic. See now I'm worried my AD will tell me they are not getting any more, if they do discontinue it, I don't want a 5990 in all rose, I prefer the dial on the 5980 much better! But from a functionality standpoint, significantly more useful. I can't think of any reason I'd ever use my Daytona pushers for anything other than just enjoying watching the movement. Now if there is a 5740 in full rose.... I don't think I could handle it. __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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3 April 2019, 02:59 PM | #18 |
Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270 | I'm soon to be the owner of a 5711/1R. Will let you know ;-) The 5980/1R wears amazing. 253 grams of great weight, sits and balances perfectly on the wrist. I own a YM2 YG too and that weighs just as much as the 5980/1R, but the 5980 just does a better job of still being "subtle" and elegant. |
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3 April 2019, 08:21 PM | #19 |
Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772 | Quote: Originally Posted by WatchLurv I'm soon to be the owner of a 5711/1R. Will let you know ;-) The 5980/1R wears amazing. 253 grams of great weight, sits and balances perfectly on the wrist. I own a YM2 YG too and that weighs just as much as the 5980/1R, but the 5980 just does a better job of still being "subtle" and elegant. Elegant yes... i dont know if subtle lol. Like elizabeth hurley in a bikini. Excited for u on the 5711/1r |
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3 April 2019, 08:26 PM | #20 |
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Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,873 | I have tried the 5980/1R and 5980R. Both looks amazing but too heavy for me. 5711-1R being ultra slim is much more wearable despite being gold. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789 |
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3 April 2019, 09:17 PM | #21 |
Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270 | Quote: Originally Posted by Fat_ninja Elegant yes... i dont know if subtle lol. Like elizabeth hurley in a bikini. Excited for u on the 5711/1r When comparing a 5980 to 116688...I think the 116688 shines everything down. You can see that watch from the moon. I'm equally as excited to get that call. Should be coming within the next 60 days. |
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3 April 2019, 11:19 PM | #22 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 3,629 | 5980/1R is a tad big and chunky for my lighting, especially given that it's an all gold watch. The 5711/1R is perfectly proportioned and so elegant even in full gold. Though I've given up on getting one ever.... it's going to haunt me that I passed on one in December 2017 that was sitting in an AD display case! |
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4 April 2019, 02:52 AM | #23 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: N/A Posts: 1,218 | 5711/1r is a perfect watch. __________________ 116506 |
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4 April 2019, 04:26 AM | #24 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Quote: Originally Posted by WatchLurv I'm soon to be the owner of a 5711/1R. Will let you know ;-) The 5980/1R wears amazing. 253 grams of great weight, sits and balances perfectly on the wrist. I own a YM2 YG too and that weighs just as much as the 5980/1R, but the 5980 just does a better job of still being "subtle" and elegant. The YM is a hefty one, I would notice a handful of times of wearing it for a full day your arm gets a little tired. But I do live in all of my watches, if it's not on a leather strap it's probably not coming off for days at a time. __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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4 April 2019, 04:28 AM | #25 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Quote: Originally Posted by WatchLurv When comparing a 5980 to 116688...I think the 116688 shines everything down. You can see that watch from the moon. I'm equally as excited to get that call. Should be coming within the next 60 days. It's pretty bright, but something about the combination of Rolex Yellow and that Ceramic blue is incredible. I just am waiting for the day they release a GMT blueberry with that same color blue ceramic, would blow the pepsi and batman out of the water. __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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4 April 2019, 04:37 AM | #26 |
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Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NYC Watch: Root Beer GMT Posts: 172 | Quote: Originally Posted by WatchLurv I'm soon to be the owner of a 5711/1R. Will let you know ;-) The 5980/1R wears amazing. 253 grams of great weight, sits and balances perfectly on the wrist. I own a YM2 YG too and that weighs just as much as the 5980/1R, but the 5980 just does a better job of still being "subtle" and elegant. YMII I believe is 265 grams and a gold daytona is 286 (weights with all links) ....the daytona gives me less wrist fatigue, But I have the white gold version which I believe may be heavier than yellow ? I think something to do with the weight distribution / size of the Daytona makes it less prone to wrist fatigue, the platinum Daytona felt obviously heavier to me but on the wrist I didn't notice a difference between it and white. Either way, I'm not sure weight bothers me much or I notice it after a while of wearing....unless it's like a RM Rafa Nadal which feels like a feather. __________________ 116509, 116688, 126711CHNR, 11610LV |
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4 April 2019, 12:56 PM | #27 |
Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270 | Quote: Originally Posted by believelandcle The YM is a hefty one, I would notice a handful of times of wearing it for a full day your arm gets a little tired. But I do live in all of my watches, if it's not on a leather strap it's probably not coming off for days at a time. I went on a business and leisure trip for 14 days with the YMII on... I couldnt wait to get it off and put it away after that trip. I dont wear watches on a daily basis, so they only come out to play on trips and weekends. It felt uncomfortable in the end...YMII is manageable in very shortrun wear. Quote: Originally Posted by believelandcle YMII I believe is 265 grams and a gold daytona is 286 (weights with all links) ....the daytona gives me less wrist fatigue, But I have the white gold version which I believe may be heavier than yellow ? I think something to do with the weight distribution / size of the Daytona makes it less prone to wrist fatigue, the platinum Daytona felt obviously heavier to me but on the wrist I didn't notice a difference between it and white. Either way, I'm not sure weight bothers me much or I notice it after a while of wearing....unless it's like a RM Rafa Nadal which feels like a feather. The YM2 is around 265 with all links in, yep. The YG daytona is nowhere near this weight. It's nearer to a Sub YG which is around 230 grams. You're thinking of the Platinum Daytona which is up there at 286 grams. I think the weight distribution across the wrist definitely affects what we think of the watch. I think the Patek when it's centered and more of its mass is on the wrist rather than distributed across of it, makes it far more comfortable. |
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5 April 2019, 04:36 PM | #28 |
"TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,823 | Quote: Originally Posted by believelandcle Only two people I know have a 5711 in rose gold, and both told me they passed on a 5980 and opted for a 5711 because it felt better on the wrist. I've never worn / tried on any other model of Nautilus except a 5712 but I am curious to get input from additional sources with their thoughts around the two. I own both. The 5980/1R is very top heavy and uncomfortable. 5711/1R on the other hand is balanced n comfortable for daily use. |
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